You are using an out of date browser. Behind that were two Italian proof marks. I hope it's at least a little bit of a lead." and another from oour friend Prarie Dawg: Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. Thank you. Looks like if they were they would have had to do the entire gun, there are no deep gouges or deep file marks anywhere other than it looking worn. Nov 8, 2007. Most members even possess Colt Percussion Clones, by Uberti & Pietta.. Very nicely finished. (The word Phanton was actually spelled that way on the order.) 0000028135 00000 n I have a Palmetto leaflet somewhere and if memory serves me right there are photographs of a Colt 1860 Army and a Dragoon. It was not rust bluing, but looked close enough to it to satisfy us. Be advised there are some hot 45 LC loads, such as from Buffalo Bore, that probably ought not to be used in this rifle, certainly not as a steady diet. Cylinder tight when trigger pulled all the way back. I believe Henry Krank may have de-activated examples of these. 1940 1953 IX 1966 XXII 1979 AE 1992 BB 2005 BZ 2018 CT. Metal to metal fit very precise, ditto for wood grips to back strap. I pray for all on the wire and all that I shoot with.After this last fight with cancer that my wife and GOD and all of you that prayed for her.Things change your outlook some. x4hjF%1I'WVH">^I*Yt} FSYD"}di)IK n!Hhf$=o:k$y}$*&L(\G'zyKdlG?Q\7>>SSV6K#OqDSIpzNh~~ x #=l%l&U ps~31H^$qB^7'0]?Ew#E=9+|uL>k/,xS-7wiN=KqOF` m2; ul_w`N` Lv endstream endobj 36 0 obj 741 endobj 37 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 36 0 R >> stream Notably, there are some minor spots of tarnish on the trigger guard and some handling wear at the muzzle. The rifle had the caliber marked just behind the rear sight on top of the barrel as 45 COLT. The left side of the barrel had the importers name and Ubertis name tastefully small. r2 e< 1{Vk)} OCT. 16. The left side of the frame has Italian proof marks. (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)/*rv^)eO>S^)zy^Qp.6CTZ=_"qU[f!=xKw2"+pMlb/}-g%0_/3LA0G#%gC_`uC/}uEpV:+kk They also did a Colt 1855 revolving rifle. The front sight was also identical in contour to the other rifle, and had a flat-topped blade insert of somewhat shiny metal. I suspect your CR is really a poor stamping of CB, which would be 2007. . Model: . There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. Pending. The only marks are "NAVY ARMS CO" on the left side of the frame and on the barrel top flat, on the right side of the barrel "MADE IN ITALY" and the letters "GU" in script. 0000003864 00000 n My first thoughts are that they may be Section 1 firearms so I would recommend that you go to a local firearms dealer and ask his advice if you do not have them on FAC. 0000039439 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Without seeing the pistols it is difficult to know exactly what they are. Unfired. Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. Enjoy the thrill of shooting a gun from the Old West and experience how history repeats itself. It was sold through Beeman's catalog in 1984. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments Recoil was not an issue. 0000005085 00000 n Type of Finish:Blue, Case Color and Brass. We'll start about there. The manual had the mumbo-jumbo we mentioned in our earlier report about where the lever ought to be during the loading process, and we again state that it doesnt matter where you put the lever when you load the rifle. "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not" - Thomas Jefferson. shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing, CAS, Cars, Traveling I have a Uberti made .44 Mag. The right side of the frame is marked 04919. 0000050889 00000 n by F.A.R.A; It appears to be a notch or two higher quality in fit & finish to the many such repros of this rifle I've seen over the yearsanyone have knowledge of the maker? Can anyone help? 0000039418 00000 n In short, put the lever anywhere you want it during the loading process, and it will still take a full cycle of the lever to get the first round into the chamber. ITALY. For all practical purposes, the import of Italian replica cartridge sixguns started in 1962. Good luck on your bid! The action proof marks were under the action just behind the loading platform. The Springfield Trapdoor held the new, more powerful .45-70 military cartridge. Overall, the pistol is in Fine condition. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. The right side of the octagonal chamber is marked "CAL. 1860 HENRY and the bottom tang held A. Our Assessment:This Uberti replica of the Remington Rolling Block pistol is a single-shot pistol chambered for more modern .22 Hornet rounds. My wife and grand kids and my kids. I have a .50 cal rifle, nobody can tell me anything about this rifle. Some kind of a star over a shield, a star over PN or PSF? What others? The Henry rifle worked well enough but had a nasty job of overbuffing, we thought, that gave the brass action a mirror polish at the expense of destroying the edges of the octagonal flats of the barrel. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. Wed buy this one instantly if we wanted a brass gun for fun. it is scratched badly with sand paper in a horrible restore. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Partly because of that problem and partly because of the high price, $2300, we gave the rifle a Grade: C rating. The rifle had the caliber marked just behind the rear sight on top of the barrel as "45 COLT." The left side of the barrel had the importer's name and Uberti's name tastefully small. Uberti's extensive line of traditional guns has established a long history of reliability. Unlike the other rifle, this one came with a comprehensive yet brief manual that told how to operate it all. 0000057470 00000 n 0000006823 00000 n All the .44s (including the Phantoms) were in the range of 75918 to 75954 and all the .22s (except 75255) were in the range of 75955 to 75985. 0000051690 00000 n I understand a lot of Navy Arms guns were not made by Uberti but by other Italian companies. 0000036564 00000 n This is one of the first Uberti made replicas that Val Forgett had imported. Centred around the village of Gardone, the Val Trompia region has the highest concentration of gun makers anywhere in the World. The screwheads have strong slots and remain serviceable. 11) The mark on the left is possibly an Armi San Marco logo on a 1994 pistol. 0000001474 00000 n The rifle did not seem to require a break-in period to deburr it, as had the other one. is 1350. 0000105361 00000 n The second proof mark is a similar star and circle, slightly larger, above the letters PN. 0000001338 00000 n There have been few days since my arrival here in late 1977, that I have not carried a gun, either on my hip, or beneath my left armpit. I take it that it was made in 1979, which sounds right, I bought it used in the early 1980's. It is a well made old gun. I like the Uberti's use of discrete placement of proof marks. Ubertis 1860 Henry Rifle Trumps Henrys Original Lever-Action, Sturm, Ruger Rolls Out Significant New Pistols, Revolvers, and Rifles, Ruger American Long-Range Target (LRT) 8378 22 LR. http://powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf. there are no marks anywhere except serial #xxx on bottom of barrel below base pin. Reaction score. 0000001196 00000 n Another Brescia based company, Armi Sport, marks their guns with AC within a circle. 6) Piettas logo and name stamp. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} We found the barrel flats to be properly done. 10) Uberti name and address stamping from 1975. A forum community dedicated to Colt firearm owners and enthusiasts. Thank you. 0000002293 00000 n Take that, and cross reference it the list below. They made two versions of the Colt 1855 sidehammer revolver, one in .31 calibre and the other in .36. Whilst the makers marks are there principally for advertising and recognition, the proof marks and serial number are obligatory and will always take the same form. %PDF-1.4 % 0000007663 00000 n 22 HORNET". These guns began production in 1958 to be ready for the Centennial of the Civil War. If this were a copy of an 1873 Winchester, youd have to choose 44-40 (or 38-40) for authenticity, but if youre shooting the 1860 Henry in those matches, it doesnt matter which incorrect caliber you choose. Uberti's first production gun was a Colt 1851 in 1959 so the date code would have been "XV". A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Any information or ideas on this gun would be greatly appreciated. Because the availability of 44-40 ammunition choices is fairly tight (MidwayUSA.com lists 10 choices, with only lead bullets, in weights from 200 to 225 grains), we figured if we found an 1860 we liked, wed prefer to have a wider range of loads for it, so we acquired one chambered in 45 Colt (aka Long Colt), for which MidwayUSA.com lists 56 results, in bullet weights from 145 grains to 360 grains in lead, copper, even shotshells. Even has the same box. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. We suspect itd be a delight with black powder. Likewise, many of the Winchester or Sharps rifle clones will have been manufactured in the same area. Our impression was that this is how the 1860 Henry is supposed to look. The little button behind the loading lever had distinct stops every 90 degrees, a feature was missing from the previously tested version. 0000004123 00000 n Groups with the PMC averaged 2.3 inches at 50 yards off the bench. I was born there LO these many years ago, but in 1977 I came to the United States, and have enjoyed FREEDOMS such as I never dreamed of as a British SUBJSCT! There are no chips or cracks. There are already a number of these fakes out there, just waiting for the unwary and uninformed, and there are those who would welcome the opportunity to provide even more. 0000037713 00000 n Does it have proof marks? This is the black powder mark and will be found only on black powder weapons. UBERTI ITALY and the serial number. I still adore my Uberti but my Henry Original is hands down the superior rifle of the two reproductions. Our sample Uberti Yellow Boy rifle was very well made and finished. It consists of the letters dp inside an oval and is usually followed by the name DAVIDE PEDERSOLI or PEDERSOLI. It will come as no surprise then to find that the Italian Proof House is also in the valley. HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 The Italian proof marks should have a rectangular or square box with a date code in it. The cylinderis marked 55 and the Serial No. 0000009592 00000 n 0000006039 00000 n revolver, the square with the letters(AE in this case) are only on the bottom of the barrel after the Uberti name and proof marks. The proof marks are described in Table 2. 0000046756 00000 n 3l\9/OEK0joW/L242:ORES\";OhBzP%% - eupGHsP/Y$T y&$ iJ.iO7+asMi3>6fV#iBM u*wzY!.biCEy;Z7yA+lpNQFP+dV4N5t i According to a web site this is the Italian date code for 1977. The lever springs out of a Uberti 73 are the same as the ones one of this 22.I am thinking it is a Uberti but me thinking is not always a good thing. were all sharp enough to cut the hands. The Winchester won a clear victory in that head-to-head test of lever actions, but we were intrigued by the Henry nonetheless. These are very scarce and near impossible to find in such fine original condition. To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year, One-of-a-Kinds ~ Antique and Collectibles, Metal Shank Buttons with Victorian Design. The original rolling-block pistol was based on the split-breech carbine invented by Joseph Geiger. This company was formed in 1970 and used the initials of its three founders, Grassi, Doninelli and Gazzola to make up an emblem. Rooster Cogburn. Of course, original Henry rifles were never chambered for anything but the 44 Henry Rimfire, so whether you choose 44-40 or 45 LC for your modern 1860 Henry is of no consequence. There is no warning about black powder.
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