Kelly Corrigan:Dont get crumbs on the baby. Theres a title. The idea that we just sort of wander around, consume things until we die, like were just a series of small appetites without any deep, rich, meaningful, satisfying connection. Your email address will not be published. I think people think that if you have a diagnosis, or somethings happened to you that you should know because youre proof of it. Im so sorry youre not going to like any of my answers. Kelly Corrigan:Dont get crumbs on the baby. Theres a title. The ambiguity is quite isolating. Kelly Corrigan:Hey, thanks for having me. You cant only experience deep gratitude at the toenails that you seriously wish someone else would have cut, because seriously, whos doing this around here? Inspiring and thought-provoking interviews conducted by author Kelly Corrigan. We had several hamsters in one cage, and they can be cannibalistic, and one morning a hamster was missing, and another hamster had a suspiciously large tummy. Like, Im just an ordinary person, and I make all the mistakes that everybody else makes and maybe even 10% more, and then there she was, and what she would have done for the life that I was kind of rushing through, multitasking my way through day, after day, and you know, sort of feeling snappish, and then catching myself, and feeling like I should be different. Kelly Corrigan Full Transcript - Kate Bowler Everything Happens with Kate Bowler Kelly Corrigan: Tell Me More 30 00:00:00 30 Read more about this episode, and get show notes, here. Kelly Corrigan Wonders on Apple Podcasts 296 episodes Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better. Nobody who is between identities they can tolerate does, it seems to me something Ive actively struggled with and expect to go hand to hand with again, whether tomorrow or the day after. Ill definitely have to write this one down and bring it out on a particularly overwhelming day! Kate Bowler:I guess Ill see you soon. Then the ocean with its waves so vast, impossible to touch bottom, then a maze, then a mountain, then seasons, a natural disaster. Kelly Corrigan:Hey, thanks for having me. So, I kind of wondered if there was a motto youd pick for you for right now, what would it be? I was wrong not to try to ease her days in some way.. Kate Bowler:Oh friend. Ill read you a little bit from the very end of that chapter because the thing that he was saying I think is, This is how it goes.. Like, Im just an ordinary person, and I make all the mistakes that everybody else makes and maybe even 10% more, and then there she was, and what she would have done for the life that I was kind of rushing through, multitasking my way through day, after day, and you know, sort of feeling snappish, and then catching myself, and feeling like I should be different. Inspiring and thought-provoking interviews conducted by bestselling author Kelly Corrigan. So, maybe when life is chronic, we all need some sayings to anchor us, our very own mottos that guide us through. They swell, and constrict, and break, and forgive, and behold, because its like this, having a heart. Kelly Corrigan:I sat at my dining room table, which is place I never write, and I thought, Oh my God, of course I know exactly what this is. On Sundays, Kelly records a special podcast called, "Thanks for Being Here" where she reads the toasts and tributes that listeners have submitted about those they love. The result is "Think Twice: Michael Jackson," a 10-part podcast from Audible and Wondery that will be available exclusively on Audible and Amazon Music on Thursday. Kelly Corrigan:And it wasnt my turn for his attention. Im Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens. And she said, Kelly, Im going to try to do the Uber to this wedding, and I was wondering if you can request a woman, and I said, No you cant, but you can trust it. Kate Bowler:You are someone who has gotten mixed up in all kinds of things, and I am so glad to know you. I mean, Im totally coming to see you. It is a good reminder for me that I can lean into what its like now because change is always acoming. Suddenly, just showing up was in question. Kate Bowler:Absolutely. Kate Bowler:Well I think part of it, and this gets to another phrase that you write about which is I dont know, but you and I, it sounds like, have given up on certainties as a way to cope with that, both having been through cancer, and also I think both realizing that people really dont like it when you say, I dont know.. I didnt engage with her. Find me online at @KateCBowler, and Id love to hear what you think of this episode. I went into this tiny bathroom in Baltimore in our office building, and just cried my eyes out, and it wasnt even because she died. Kate Bowler:Getting back to life has been really tricky. But first, we need you to sign in to PBS using one of the services below. On days when I feel overwhelmed, I tell myself all I need to do is maintain the faith and exit with grace. Kelly Corrigan Wonders on Apple Podcasts Kelly Corrigan:My instinct is to fix, cause I feel Im almost sure I can. You are everywhere they are., Kelly Corrigan:I really believe that, even though Im skeptical, and Im mad at people who say, Her spirits still here, and stuff. The successes of independent and feminist Marie Antoinette provoke jealousy and rivalry. She has been called the voice of her generation and the poet laureate of the ordinary, and she is the most perfect person to talk to to kick us off because her lovely new book is called Tell Me More, and Tell me more is one of those phrases she uses, phrases that she writes about that help guide her through relationships, and parenting, and grief. You start with, Its like this.. P.S. I was wrong not to try to know her, and I could just see it in his face that it was like, Okay, you understand. Im like, Yeah, right. Kelly Corrigan:Ah, it was so terrible. I loved this episode! Kelly Corrigan:Where you can feel the person kind of asking around, snooping just enough, and its not for your sake. I didnt engage with her. I mean so far, knock on wood, Im getting to see my kids be much, much older than she got to see her kids be. I think thats cause we were always sort of fighting nearby. Kate Bowler:Yeah. I think thats cause we were always sort of fighting nearby. Kate Bowler:Yeah. Kelly Corrigan Wonders | iHeart Just get in the mix, get in the line of fire. Forever? PRX Series Kelly Corrigan Wonders Hosted by four-time New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan, the show features insightful conversations with notable guests, reflecting on their lives and the impact they can have on their worlds. I dont know. Its all this cumulative effect of a thousand minuscule moments. Kelly Corrigan:I mean, unless youre a monk, and youre meditating for 60 days in a mountain somewhere. You dont have to bring it all. Over 50 & Flourishing with Dominique Sachse. I didnt do it. Its all this cumulative effect of a thousand minuscule moments. So, thats just the question in front of all of us. You understand what you did wrong., Kelly Corrigan:So to me, that felt very different than saying, Im sorry. A former newspaper columnist and four time bestselling . Today, Im speaking with New York Times bestselling author, Kelly Corrigan. Shed do anything. I mean, that was my big experience of your book. Surely, my friend, my lost and lovely friend, called for new words. I was also living only maybe 10 miles from my very old grandma who lived alone, and I kept kind of meaning to go visit her, but its a lot easier to show up at work every day at the United Way, and get kind of righteous about all the people who work for money versus the rest of us who are working for the greater good, than it is to go to your grandmas smelly, weird apartment, and have weird conversations with an 88-year old, you know? Kate Bowler:Well, the quote that really resonated with me is when you said, They are moving onward, not away from you, but with you. The name is a lyric from . Kate Bowler:You put in a strong argument, if I may say it like that, for just being close to one another. They thrill, and confound, and circle, and overflow, and disappear, because its like this, having a life.. Its so that they can identify some critical difference between you and them that makes them feel like they can exhale again. It kind of reminded me though, when I was little, my family used to have these mottos, but the mottos were stuff like, Dont get crumbs on the baby, or Be nice to mom. Okay, but Im just telling you those kids are waking up every day without her, and theyre going to keep being without her forever. Kate Bowler:I need to hear what your motto is. Allison Wohl: A Toast Women | Faith & Story I dont know. We have a lot to learn from you. What do we do when the labels were given arent necessarily the ones we choose for ourselves? Kate Bowler:Yeah. I found that instructive. You wrote this book in a season of incredible loss. -Kilpy Kate Bowler:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kate Bowler:Theres this other phrase, I was wrong, that has real power, and you learned that in a really intense way when your grandma died. Maya Shankars Plus One is Christy Warren, a former first responder with 25 years of experience in the field. She was really, really into manners, and as kind of an act of gratitude, not in an uptight, British way, but as a Look at us eating a meal together, like, Nobody should eat before the last person gets down. Theyre poking for that critical difference to hold on to, and I wanna hug em, and say, I know. Im so glad youve been plugging in and hope to keep hearing your feedback! Hopefully youve continued to connect with Kate and Kellys books. I had to make it into a vest to remove it from my body with the tag still on it, you know? We are so glad that you joined us for this conversation and found it enjoyable. We look forward to having you join in on future conversations! Exactly Archives | KQED News Kelly Corrigan:I didnt die. You start with, Its like this.. Constance shares her experiences as an actress in Hollywood both on and off screen: the privilege and responsibility of representation, being a true artist, navigating social media and an incident which took her to a very dark place.Special thanks to PBS for supporting Tell Me More and this podcast series. Kelly Corrigan:So, I get it, but I spend a lot of time with them, and Im madly in love with them, really, really have this deep, incredible connection with them that I just value so much, and they are in her, and you know, theyre everything that was so important to her. I mean, maybe I was projecting, maybe whatever he said in that moment, maybe if he had said peanut butter, and jelly, wed be talking about peanut butter and jelly, but it totally resonated for me in the way that a song lyric does where youre like, I dont know what that means exactly, but Im going to write that down, and put it in my wallet, and its interesting. We can remove the first show in the list to add this one. Im grateful for your wisdom in the messy, the uncertain and the in-between. I was wrong not to try to ease her days in some way.. And she said, Kelly, Im going to try to do the Uber to this wedding, and I was wondering if you can request a woman, and I said, No you cant, but you can trust it. Mary Hope wrote this thoughtful, open-hearted letter to her community to introduce her son Alex - who had previously been known to all as Jenna, her daughter. The book is full of warm and witty blessings found within the struggles of our shared humanity, from theNew York Timesbestselling authors ofGood Enough. Kelly Corrigan:And he said, Thats a way to be a parent, which is to say to be there, to be available, to be within view, but not necessarily inserting yourself, because even though as your kids get older and older, it feels like theyre looking for you less and less, it is sort of a comfort to glance over, and see you there, and feel you there, and they would most certainly notice if you werent. The things we tell ourselves and each other are so important, arent they? Today, I get a chance to talk to Kelly about some of her very best phrases. RELATED LINKS Try this episode's happiness practice: 36 Questions for Increasing Closeness Read Kelly Corrigan's new book, Tell Me More Transcript Thanks For Being Here Mary Hope's Letter Introducing Alex. Shed do dishes all day and into the night to just get to listen to her children, just to get to watch them through a one-way glass, you know? The space between doubt and belief is often unpopular, but the tension can be held. Theres meatless Mondays, and theres a kombucha bar, and theres nap pods. Kareem means generous. One of the hardest things Ive been wrestling with is not having any clear language for this weird place between sick and healthy, weak and strong. Just see who you can bump into out there. Kelly Corrigan:And thats the truth. I thoroughly enjoyed your podcast and listening to you both. Im sorry I didnt go see your mom. Thats not the same as saying I was wrong not to try to know her. All moments, days, chapters are transitory and the good ones leave us as do the bad ones. Its remarkable to hear a bit of your story and Im really grateful that youve shared it with us. Corrigan and her guests meander with insight and humor toward that inevitable moment when you think, "Exactly!" The Best Show with Tom Scharpling a day ago Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better. Enjoy an intimate and heartfelt interview series hosted by author Kelly Corrigan.MoreMore. Thanks For Being Here Remembering Ryland. So, Dont eat a hamster is our version of Dont jump to conclusions.. Kate Bowler:Words matter. Its the only way to keep the last bit of sanity. I think people think that if you have a diagnosis, or somethings happened to you that you should know because youre proof of it. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah, and theres forgiveness and acceptance kind of intertwined there that you know, youre going to forget. I mean, I remember thinking, when I wasnt sure, when I was in an especially tough moment of illness, every time I would look at Zachs nails I would think, Is this what wouldve happened if I hadnt been here to do this? Join New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan as she choreographs big-ideas conversations with some of the creative thinkers and artists who define our time. You can watch this episode of Tell Me More anytime at pbs.org/kelly.Thank you also to the Lafayette Library and Learning Center. Kelly Corrigan:Its like a game changer. When bestselling author Kelly Corrigan experienced the death of her dad and dear friend back-to-back, she couldnt shake the feeling that she wasnt living as gratefully as she wanted to. So, Dont eat a hamster is our version of Dont jump to conclusions.. Episode 3: How to Fall in Love with Anyone - Greater Good Onward, my dears. It just came out whole, and of course, to me its the most important and moving chapter in the book for sure. Kate Bowler:Those ordinary consonants and vowels that, when strung together, offer meaning and points of entry for others. Im so sorry youre not going to like any of my answers. I just want to show up and try to be of use. Then cancer hit. Its cancer inflammatory breast cancer, with a twenty percent chance of living to five years. Jan, Kelly, this is such a good reminder that sometimes we inherit tough histories and mottos. Thats my other life mantra. No one understands what makes a character sing better than Michael Lewis. Onwards, but you use it so beautifully when youre talking about Lizs family and how they are now. So, I really appreciated the way that you framed the bigness and the smallness of it, because it has to be both. Forever? I mean, that was my big experience of your book. Kate Bowler:Yeah. Just do your best. Like, Today could be this day, well, you know, today I met you, now were friends, and who knows whats going to happen now? Both Kate and Kelly are remarkable women and in tandem they make for great listening. Touching on themes like self-belief, resilience, humility, and justice, this series normalizes the human condition and emphasizes our capacity to grow. Best, Kate Bowler:Todays episode is brought to you by our partners, North Carolina Public Radio WUNC, the Lilly Endowment, The Issachar Fund, The John Templeton Foundation, Faith and Leadership: An Online Learning Resource, and Duke Divinity School, and of course, Beverly Abel, Jessica Richie, and Be the Change Revolutions. Advice to graduates: Just ask questions In, warm, insightful, often funny conversations, Kate talks with people about what they've. Kelly has also agreed to be my friend as part of her contractual commitment to this podcast. Is this how you would have cared for my son?, and you end up fixating on all of these tiny little things, and at the same time, so overwhelmed by not being sure if its trivial or tragic. I mean, I remember thinking, when I wasnt sure, when I was in an especially tough moment of illness, every time I would look at Zachs nails I would think, Is this what wouldve happened if I hadnt been here to do this? They reel and wander and fixate and roll back and reconsider, because its like this, having a mind. Kate Bowler:You and I are super chatty people, but you make an amazing pitch for silence, and I am all for it, because everyone always had these go-to things to say with me like, You can do it, or Youre so brave, and all the things that made me feel like I was on the other side of plexiglass. Kelly Corrigan:I was perhaps proud about it honestly, and I was reading 7 Habits of Highly Effective People at night with my big fat yellow highlighter, and I was really full of attachment to this identity that I had painted for myself. Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan | PBS Your mantra is fantastic and is sounds like it has served you well through the years! Kelly Corrigan:So, I used to go in there and write, and they have a meditation teacher twice a day at 10:00 AM and 3:00 PM, and at first I was sort of sheepish about availing myself of every single employee benefit, but sure enough, eventually I found myself sitting in there, and this guy was kind of amazing. Onwards, but you use it so beautifully when youre talking about Lizs family and how they are now. That sounds really right to me. I should not be mad about this. You say something thats so weird cause I say it all the time, so when I read it I thought, Did you reach inside my brain? You adopted the phrase, Onward as a bit of a motto. I need to hear what your motto is. Series 47: For the Love of Untraditional Traditions Series 46: For the Love of Feeding Your People Series 45: For the Love of Dating, Sex, and Relationships Series 44: Letters from MeCamp 2022 Series 43: For the Love of Conversations Series 42: For the Love of Our Favorite Pastimes Series 41: For the Love of Faith Shakers Kelly Corrigan:Im telling you what, man, you can not believe how much I use this, and you can not believe how still it is not my natural instinct. Kindly, Kelly Corrigan Wonders on RadioPublic Michael Lewis sends his thanks to Dr. Arthur White, a former history teacher at Isidore Newman School in New Orleans, Louisiana, for kicking him in class whenever hed fall asleep. Ask the dancers, and the athletes, the painters, and musicians. I think we should be talking about five percent of the time. Kate Bowler:You are someone who has gotten mixed up in all kinds of things, and I am so glad to know you. An Evening with Kelly Corrigan EVENT PAGE - Lightways Each episode ends with Kellys shortlist of takeaways, appropriate for refrigerator doors, bulletin boards and notes to your children. Kate Bowler:I dont think Ill like it, but I will think of you when I do it. Kilpy Kate Bowler:Well, the quote that really resonated with me is when you said, They are moving onward, not away from you, but with you. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. She plans to give it to her daughter, who graduates from high school in June.. You wrote about the end of words. Kelly Corrigan:So, I had to wait, and then finally we had a window, and I said, I was wrong. Kellys guest is actress and author Constance Wu - you may know her from her roles in the breakthrough tv show Fresh Off the Boat and the blockbuster film Crazy, Rich Asians. Yeah. I love you both so much and was tickled to hear you together. I love it that it gives up perfectionism, and it just says, Hey, whats possible today?. This interview is perfection. Kelly Corrigan:Theyre never going to not do that, and thats how theyre going to raise their kids, and that means shes still here. Kelly Corrigan:And how do we earn it? This is the way this has to be, and its right there. Kelly Corrigan:Hearts dont idle. At a time when so much feels unex I was wrong not to go visit her. The Big Short, Moneyball, Liars Poker, these stories stand for whole industries because Michael Lewis puts just the right protagonist in the center. Yeah. Theres a whole world out there happening, and you can step into all kinds of things, and you dont need to know why youre leaving the house. Society & Culture English Kareem means generous. Kate Bowler:I do think people offer certainties when they think that youre proof of something that scares them, and they cant just live in the uncertainty of not knowing for a minute. I went into this tiny bathroom in Baltimore in our office building, and just cried my eyes out, and it wasnt even because she died. Shed do dishes all day and into the night to just get to listen to her children, just to get to watch them through a one-way glass, you know? Whos going to do this? And then right on the heels of that, I think, What would Liz do for this?. Their oldest, Aaron was killed in a car accident 20 summers ago, just after his freshman year in college. You've just tried to add this show to My List. It doesnt end, and also you cant live there. I was wrong, and that is very soothing, but then that took me back to this moment where I had gone to work for United Way after college, because I was going to save the world, and I was this total do-gooder. Best Kelly Corrigan Podcasts (2023) Kelly Corrigan:And I should not lose my mind over a shirt I bought on final sale section that didnt fit even though I tried to pull it over myself, and then it got stuck on me, and I had to cut it off with scissors. Constance Wu also thanks a past educator of hers, Mr. Frizzle. Kelly reads everything from eulogies to retirement speeches and on February 19th, she . Im so compassionate to that thing that happens every time you tell someone that you had cancer, which is the other person trying to figure out why its not going to happen to them as fast as possible. If you love the episode, please share and review. She has a beloved podcast called Everything Happens. Kelly Corrigan:My friend Andy Lotts, who is Lizs husband, told me about it, cause hes a mom now, and so we talk mom talk. Kelly Corrigan:Now maybe Im going to go to Durham, and now maybe Im going to get my PhD in Divinity. Im coming. Its a sin, its hell. Best Kelly Corrigan Show Podcasts (2023) Phrases like I dont know, I was wrong, and one of my favorites, Its like this. Its these seemingly trivial moments. Go get mixed up in something. I dont know, but a whole new world of possibilities exist right now that did not exist an hour and 10 minutes ago, and I think that is so cool, and real, and exciting. Im hearing all the music, Im totally tuned in to the right channel, and then just like that, I slip into those mundane irritants., Kelly Corrigan:And then I catch myself, and then I feel this sense of shame, and he said, Its like this. She reflects on her love and loss through ordinary moments and everyday sayings. In this season of "Tell Me More," listen to one-on-one conversations with musical icons like Jewel and Lang Lang, community leaders like Del Seymour, entertainment heavyweights like Constance Wu and Michael Lewis, scientists like Maya Shankar, and more. Its a sin, its hell. I mean, that means shes with them. Maybe I dont have to be good, but I can try to be least a little better then Ive been so far., Riham:Our family motto is Allah Kareem. So, I was wondering, would you mind reading that beautiful passage you wrote about after Liz died? Sadly, our family motto was, Youll pass in a crowd if the crowds big enough. My mothers mother didnt want her to get a swelled head, and she passed that down to us, her four daughters. Teri Rose wrote this loving remembrance of her son Ryland. Now, eleven years post-cancer, Im still learning to show up and be of use in my life, my marriage, my family and my work for the display of His splendor. They hate it. I heard your friend died, and I just couldnt bear to call them back. Its not in my family. Best, One is called Yesterday and the other is called Tomorrow. Kelly Corrigan:And so I didnt do it. The reach of language can be laughable.. Yeah. Shes not going to hold their babies.. One of the hardest things Ive been wrestling with is not having any clear language for this weird place between sick and healthy, weak and strong. I rebelled. I think earn is such a good word, because youre talking about such a complicated math. I guess everybody here, these children of mine and my husband, are just too damn busy to get on this, but Im not, so Ill do it, and then I was finishing, and I found a little pile of cut toenails on my kitchen table, and that. She died this morning, and I was just sick to my stomach. Copyright 2023 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Neal Brennan and Kelly Corrigan have a conversation in NYC. Trust your Gut? with Annie Jean Baptiste - Kelly Corrigan Wonders (podcast) Diana, Weekly dose of wonder: The glorious sounds of chickens : NPR Your email address will not be published. It kind of reminded me though, when I was little, my family used to have these mottos, but the mottos were stuff like, Dont get crumbs on the baby, or Be nice to mom. And the potted plant theory, I cant credit it to someone, Im sorry, I dont know who put it out there, but the idea is that if you were to have a plant in your kitchen, you might not be aware of it at all, and then if someone were to remove it, youd say What happened to that plant?.
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